Why didn’t they ask the City Council?

2013-02-15T21:13:00Z 2013-12-18T14:10:20Z Why didn’t they ask the City Council?CARA SPOTO cara.spoto@journaltimes.com Journal Times

RACINE — When asked why city attorneys or other members of the administration did not speak with the City Council before deciding to appeal the union lawsuit decision, Deputy City Attorney Scott Letteney said they didn’t have to.

In an e-mail sent to a reporter on Friday, Letteney wrote that aldermen gave the City Attorney’s Office authority to appeal the decision when they voted to rescind the union contracts in July.

“The appeal in this case is a legal proceeding instituted to enforce the resolution of the Common Council,” he wrote.

Alderman Mike Shields, however, was troubled by the fact that the administration did not talk to the City Council or its Executive Committee about the decision.

“It’s surprising that whoever made that decision felt like they didn’t have to consult with the council,” Shields — one of only two aldermen voted against rescinding the contracts — said Friday.

Alderman Greg Helding, on the other hand, wasn’t troubled by the move, adding that he and others on the council expected the city to appeal.

“The appeal. . .I think was not only something we contemplated having to do when we decided on the initial course of action, but something many thought was inevitable,” Helding said. “I would expect the attorney’s office to do no less than vigorously argue our legal position in the courts.”

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  1. standingtall
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    standingtall - February 17, 2013 12:21 am
    The maddness needs to stop. This continued misuse of taxpayer dollars is outrageous!
  2. ggodmuls
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    ggodmuls - February 16, 2013 7:45 am
    Mayor John Dickert boasted about these contracts:

    Racine's mayor says the unions involved have come to the table, and make concessions. He adds this all comes at a time where question marks surround state, and federal funding for the city. As a result the city is trying to balance cuts and services, at a time where their financial footing is very unstable.

    And he states further,

    Racine's Mayor John Dickert isn't calling this a sprint to get deals done before the state budget is passed, saying these deals have been months in the making.



    NOW - he wants to turn around and question carefully thought out and planned contracts? Competent and knowledgeable people don't have those problems. Perhaps he didn't really mean months?

    “The petty man is eager to make boasts, yet desires that others should believe in him. He enthusiastically engages in deception, yet wants others to have affection for him. He conducts himself like an animal, yet wants others to think well of him.“

    - Xunzi

  3. ggodmuls
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    ggodmuls - February 16, 2013 7:12 am
    “The appeal. . .I think was not only something we contemplated having to do when we decided on the initial course of action, but something many thought was inevitable,” Helding said. “I would expect the attorney’s office to do no less than vigorously argue our legal position in the courts”

    The lies from City Hall grow so large they can't even remember them. Alderman Helding- Why isn't the City Attorney pursuing a simple declaratory judgement from a competent court on the issue of whether or not John Dickert should have been indemnified while making statements as a guest on a radio program as a candidate for Mayor and actively engaged in campaigning? In the interest of protecting the taxpayers from unwarranted liabilities, of course.


    Why didn't City Attorney Rob Weber defend against the the Racine Country Club lawsuit? At every Common Council meeting the claim of the Racine Country Club was denied. Surely, that was done on strong and competent legal advice from the City Attorney - right?

    Alderman Helding, you state, "I would expect the attorney’s office to do no less than vigorously argue our legal position in the courts”

    However, this is what City Attorney Rob Weber claims: “It would be silly for us to go [to trial], because if the court decided the independent assessor’s valuation was correct, then we would have to pay [the refund] plus interest,” Weber said. The city will not have to pay interest on the 2010 refund under the settlement, he added.

    It would be silly? That is the type of language that would be expected on a grade school playground from a group of giggling schoolgirls, not someone who is going to "vigorously argue our legal position in the courts”


    The John Dickert lawsuit clearly has questions that clearly haven't been answered, YET, the City wants to challenge case law from the Wisconsin Supreme Court? From the City Lawsuit:

    The Supreme Court of Wisconsin has recognized that changes to a law after a contract has been entered will not interfere with an existing contract. In Dairyland Greyhound Park v; Doyle, 295 Wis. 2d 1,48-49, 719 N.W.2d 408 (2096), the Court noted: ... the laws in existence at the time of the contract are incorporated into that contract. .. Subsequent changes to a law will not interfere with an existing contract. When a law changes, however, contracts entered into after the date of a change jn law are subject to the new law. (citations omitted)


    Is this just simply more of Mayor John Dickert's Chicago Style Politics that City of Racine voters were warned about?


    Where's the Jobs? Where's the tax relief? Now you want the people to give you a blank check to raise property taxes 5% a year - for eternity?

    Will the working poor be taxed out of existence in 2014 for the benefit of the Mayors cronies?


    Think FAST, Racine.
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