Nov. 27 Letters From Readers: Twinkies and unions; disturbing discussion; thanks for nothing; Thanksgiving dinner at Festival Hall

2012-11-26T19:09:00Z 2013-12-24T09:59:39Z Nov. 27 Letters From Readers: Twinkies and unions; disturbing discussion; thanks for nothing; Thanksgiving dinner at Festival Hall Journal Times
November 26, 2012 7:09 pm

Twinkies and unions

I suggest the Twinkies debacle is a sufficiently clear demonstration of what is wrong with requiring all workers to be union members. I shouldn’t even have to mention the U.S. auto industry, which is struggling to stay competitive with the foreign companies, all of which operate here in right-to-work states.

Now it is time to get Wisconsin on the right side of the economic system. We have been wrong long enough and lost many thousands of jobs over decades because we refuse to recognize the problems created by requiring all workers to be union members.

To make my position clear, I am not against unions. I was a Teamster from 1945-47 here in Wisconsin before joining the U.S. Army. The problem is that making unions mandatory gives their leaders excessive power and takes it away from the members. When membership is voluntary, the members have greater power to influence their leader’s actions and intentions. They get that with the option of leaving the union or not paying dues. This influences the union leaders to pay more attention to the desires and needs of the members and less to their own ideas and wants.

I see the recent recall victory by Gov. Walker as evidence that there are many union members who do not believe politically as their union leaders do or the predominantly union voters in Wisconsin would have voted with their leaders and Gov. Walker would be gone.

John Haumersen

Caledonia

Disturbing discussion

The 2013 Budget Proposal and discussions have at times been disturbing. To even put forward a budget that leaves our fire chief no options other than to close a station is irresponsible. The proposed cuts to our Fire Department, Community Centers and, yes, once again streetlights is unacceptable. I do believe a comprehensive review of the city’s “Streetlight Plan” is important, but much more important is that the needs and concerns of the citizens and taxpayers of Racine be addressed.

We are very concerned about increased crime, safety of our homes, families and streets. We are ever mindful of plummeting property values and increased insurance rates. The way last year’s streetlight eliminations were handled was downright disrespectful to the citizens and taxpayers of this city. You have a light near your house for 25 years, come home from work and it’s gone. I ask that we not repeat the mistakes of the past. We don’t want our tax dollars wasted on some abandoned industrial site, pulsating colored lights or marble bathrooms. Our city officials must choose. Choose to follow the old paths that lead to fear, anger, division and distrust. Or embark on a new course that embraces open communication, cooperation, mutual respect and trust. I choose the latter. How say you?

Karl J. Fuller

Racine

Thanks for nothing

I must agree with the letter to the editor from Marnie Deschler (Journal Times, Nov. 20).

We must wear seat belts but are there seat belts on school buses? Just like motorcycle helmets it should be our choice. However, it’s not our safety they are concerned about but more like making money off people who don’t ($10 a ticket).

I recently got a ride to the emergency room as I was in severe pulmonary distress and we were pulled over for not wearing seatbelts. More worried about writing a ticket than someone in medical distress. The officer should have taken a humanitarian choice and given us a police escort to the emergency room whether that is their job or not — it would have been the right thing to do. As I recall, a police escort was given to an extremely intoxicated man as he drove his electric wheelchair home — that took two police cars.

What happened to serve and protect?

I could have, and almost did, stop breathing on the way to the emergency room, and the family member driving me even told the officer we were on our way to the emergency room and saw I was in distress, but for $10 he prolonged our emergency (which by the way caused me to be admitted to the hospital as I could not breathe on my own). So, Racine Police Department, thanks for nothing and by the way, would you pay for my hospital stay?

Susan Eisenbart

Racine

Dinner at Festival Hall

What a delightful experience to have Thanksgiving dinner at Festival Hall.

There were so many friendly people volunteering their time to serve as greeters, servers, waiters, etc.

It was a joy to see how it all went so effortlessly. It took great effort and planning to organize such a tremendous event.

Cheryl McCrary and the Heir-Born Praise Band entertained while we were there. A magician added to the fun and even a large turkey roamed the area.

Many thanks to Danny and Ray for sponsoring this fine event. A big thank you to all the businesses and individuals who also contributed.

It was another huge success.

Eva Spalla

Racine

 

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(12) Comments

  1. An American
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    An American - December 01, 2012 5:04 pm
    No wonder John Hummerson failed on the Racine School board. Besides, he had are hard time with it while vacationing in Florida.
  2. Just My Opinion
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    Just My Opinion - November 27, 2012 11:05 am
    Susan Eisenbart...... As far as seatbelts are concerned, do what you want but expect there to be consequences to your actions. As far as seatbelts on a school bus, let me help you understand a couple of things. First, school busses are built to withstand an accident. There are roll bars approximately every 3 feet. The seat backs are cushioned and tall so if a child is thrown forward, they will be less likely to be seriously injured. Second, the average school bus can transport 66 to 72 children. Could you imagine in a true emergency such as a fire having to help unbuckle 66 to 72 seatbelts? The fire would consume the bus before you could unload the precious cargo we call our children. That police officer was only doing his job and must have sensed you would survive your "severe pulmonary distress".
  3. granny grits
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    granny grits - November 27, 2012 7:00 am
    I'm sure you won't be happy until everyone is brought down to your wage level. Do you get a paid vacation?
  4. outoftowner53105
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    outoftowner53105 - November 27, 2012 6:48 am
    Unions are not in the business of aiding employers. They are in the business of milking members for every dime they can get and then walking away when they have detroyed jobs.

    It's just what they do.
  5. An American
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    An American - November 27, 2012 6:38 am
    Some people are just plain determined to be self-destructive, Granny. They have no idea what a union is like because they live by stereotypes, not the democracy that unions provide. They want to live in America, yet they envy others in Communist and Socialist countries. So I guess it is true: They are either part of the problem, or part of the fix. Keep up the good work Granny.
  6. granny grits
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    granny grits - November 27, 2012 5:56 am
    You really must hate the middle class and unions to contort yourself like a pretzel.
  7. ordmm
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    ordmm - November 26, 2012 11:26 pm
    An American. A worn out company. Obsolete uncompetitive work rules. Nobody wants the old plant infrastructure. Nobody wants to inherit the union work rules. So, at the end of the day 18,500 less union dues paying workers. 18,500 less dues paying members who helped to elect Barak Obama. What a shame....Merry Christmas to the Hostess workers.
  8. ordmm
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    ordmm - November 26, 2012 11:23 pm
    granny......You quote part of the article. The part which you feel supports your pro union stance. One of the reasons VW as a corporation is quite profitable is from their other operations. They are not just producing cars in Germany. They have a plant in Chatanooga where they pay starting autoworkers $14.50 and hour rising to a $19.50 an hour top out which I would think helps the bottom line. Now, also some backround on how unions operate in Germany. They work side by side with management to guarantee the success of the company. I guess in Germany they know the success of the company in important to long term employment. Workers in Germany are expected to produce, and the ones who do not are let go. The role of the union in Germany is much differant than it is in this country. One would also have to accept the fact that a Mercedes or BMW have a much greater profit margin than say a Ford Focus. You compare apples to oranges granny. What I take away from the article is that the American union auto worker is worth less in productivity than his German counterpart. Another word,,,,,you get paid what you are worth.
  9. ggodmuls
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    ggodmuls - November 26, 2012 11:03 pm
    Sorry Mr. Fuller, but elections have consequences, and just face it, your priorities are not the ones of Mayor John Dickert, City Administrator Tom Friedel, Alderman Greg Helding, Alderman Jim Kaplan, or the rest of the cabal that comprises the membership of the Dickert Regime. Public Safety need not be a concern when the problem is your perception.

    You, like other voters need to remember this at NEXT election time.

    REMEMBER - NEXT ELECTION.
  10. An American
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    An American - November 26, 2012 8:59 pm
    Once again, it would do wonders if John Hummerson could read. He is quick to blame the unions, but fails to, as Paul Harvey would say, and the rest of the story" is that the unions finally were pushed to the wall by a management that sent Hostess into banruptcy 8 years ago, that Hostess management refused to follow bankruptcy recommendation and showered its CEO with 300 percent salary and benefit increases, as they also increase management salary and benefits as well. It became obvious that no matter what union did to save the company, Hostess was bent on following Romney's Bain model to bankrupt the company and cheat its employees out of pension benefits as well as wages. Read up, John.
  11. granny grits
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    granny grits - November 26, 2012 8:34 pm
    It's not union wages that are the problem. From Forbes:

    'In 2010, Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time, the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big three car companies—BMW, Daimler (Mercedes-Benz), and Volkswagen—are very profitable.'
  12. Blindman
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    Blindman - November 26, 2012 7:52 pm
    Susan Eisenbart...The police departments have become a source of revenue and punishment...A good number of police aren't good people...Now days if you have a couple of beers with friends (being responsible) they will pull you over for a tail light being out (not swerving or eratic driving,like the old days) and if they so much as smell alcohol on your breath they will do everything they can to prove you're drunk...The consequences of a DUI will destroy your life (mostly financially)...I've heard stories and thankfully have never had a DUI...I used to have a couple of beers and drive, but with todays gustapo , and Soviet style checkpoints, I won't.
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